ochlocracy
07-06-2005, 03:17 AM
This thread will be stickied to point all newbie oil questions to
There has been alot of discussion about oils, oil filters, and which applications are best.
Oil Filters known to work on 98-06 R1
Yamaha 3fv-13440-00
Fram ph6017a
Purolator ml16817
Emgo 10-82232
Perf-form j-503
Wix 51358
Napa gold 1358
Carquest 85358
K&n kn303
Mobil1 M1-110
ACDelco # PF2057
OEM Honda #5410-MCJ-000
Most people prefer the Mobil1, K&N, or Purolator filter, and discourage Fram, although any of those will fit.
Here is a great write up about oil filters, and their internals, with pictures. (http://www.twocreeks.net/toby/oil_filters/index.shtml)
Motor Oils
If you read the manual you will notice it says to use Non-EC (energy conserving) oils only. This (http://www.bardahl.ca/images/API.GIF) is what you should look for on the back of the oil bottle, it will not say Energy Conserving on the bottom. Because your motorcycle has a wet clutch, and is actually partially submerged in the oil, some say your clutch will slip. Debates rage on as to whether this is a needed concern, or just a marketing ploy playing on your fears, to get you to spend extra money for motorcycle specific oils.
15w50, 10w40, 5w30 and 5w20 are the most common oils used in our bikes. Brands are generally personal preference, but most here will recommend Mobil1. Mobil1's "Extended Life" 15w50 motor oil is a favorite of many, and their new "Truck and SUV" 5w30 is also a great oil, free of any friction modifiers (EC rating).
Others have reported no ill-effect from running oils with the EC marking. Personally, I've used EC rated oils for quite a while, in various applications (endurance racing, spring racing, street use), with no problems on a variety (OEM Yamaha, OEM Suzuki, and aftermarket) of clutches.
Do your own experiments to see what works best for you. If you use an EC rated oil, and your clutch slips, it is very simple to change the oil back to a non-EC oil, and have no long term effects.
Synthetic oils provide the best protection, but at a premium price. Whether or not it is an advantage in street riding is up for debate. You can switch to synthetic oil whenever you want. Lets not forget, that many manufacturers use synthetic oil straight from the factory!
Put in 2.5qts with a filter change, and add oil as needed. Generally, you'll need approx 2.8qts with filter change. Be careful not to overfill.
I encourage others input into this thread.
*Thanks to eventnick for the following link. :thumbup
http://www.motorcycleanchor.com/motorcycle/how_to/mc_oil.html
There has been alot of discussion about oils, oil filters, and which applications are best.
Oil Filters known to work on 98-06 R1
Yamaha 3fv-13440-00
Fram ph6017a
Purolator ml16817
Emgo 10-82232
Perf-form j-503
Wix 51358
Napa gold 1358
Carquest 85358
K&n kn303
Mobil1 M1-110
ACDelco # PF2057
OEM Honda #5410-MCJ-000
Most people prefer the Mobil1, K&N, or Purolator filter, and discourage Fram, although any of those will fit.
Here is a great write up about oil filters, and their internals, with pictures. (http://www.twocreeks.net/toby/oil_filters/index.shtml)
Motor Oils
If you read the manual you will notice it says to use Non-EC (energy conserving) oils only. This (http://www.bardahl.ca/images/API.GIF) is what you should look for on the back of the oil bottle, it will not say Energy Conserving on the bottom. Because your motorcycle has a wet clutch, and is actually partially submerged in the oil, some say your clutch will slip. Debates rage on as to whether this is a needed concern, or just a marketing ploy playing on your fears, to get you to spend extra money for motorcycle specific oils.
15w50, 10w40, 5w30 and 5w20 are the most common oils used in our bikes. Brands are generally personal preference, but most here will recommend Mobil1. Mobil1's "Extended Life" 15w50 motor oil is a favorite of many, and their new "Truck and SUV" 5w30 is also a great oil, free of any friction modifiers (EC rating).
Others have reported no ill-effect from running oils with the EC marking. Personally, I've used EC rated oils for quite a while, in various applications (endurance racing, spring racing, street use), with no problems on a variety (OEM Yamaha, OEM Suzuki, and aftermarket) of clutches.
Do your own experiments to see what works best for you. If you use an EC rated oil, and your clutch slips, it is very simple to change the oil back to a non-EC oil, and have no long term effects.
Synthetic oils provide the best protection, but at a premium price. Whether or not it is an advantage in street riding is up for debate. You can switch to synthetic oil whenever you want. Lets not forget, that many manufacturers use synthetic oil straight from the factory!
Put in 2.5qts with a filter change, and add oil as needed. Generally, you'll need approx 2.8qts with filter change. Be careful not to overfill.
I encourage others input into this thread.
*Thanks to eventnick for the following link. :thumbup
http://www.motorcycleanchor.com/motorcycle/how_to/mc_oil.html